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thetowel
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Topic: Computer Controlled FunPosted: Aug-04-2010 at 21:01 |
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I have only just discovered it, and I love it to bits. There are so many things I want to use it for (even some that ARN'T kinky, what a horrible thought. They are so much fun, and better than the TinyCLR boards I was looking at before.
I was looking at some Beck IPC's before, but they are expensive, and a pain to acquire. Aruino is my joint. But what your saying with that was an idea I had for this a while ago. Build a little PHP script that can control it, and give an observer (via some sort of webcam) control over what happens. Of course backups would be in place in case the rains of control go to someone whos a git, like a max time limit of 2 hours, and an emergency release (i.e. movement in the house, fire, panic button, etc). Still fun ideas Edited by thetowel - Aug-04-2010 at 21:02 |
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Tryst
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Posted: Aug-04-2010 at 17:51 |
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I've been looking at using one of the Olimex Ethernet PIC development boards (or making my own) with solenoid-release padlocks. The idea is that a remote observer can keep extending a timer for 15 minutes at a time. When the timer expires, the locks are opened.
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Crowley
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Posted: Aug-04-2010 at 16:37 |
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Just started doing some work with the Arduino boards myself, they're amazingly easy to use. There's also an excellent support network. As one user on their forum describes them "they're the crack of the electronics world!"
For anyone too worried about the nerd speak (don't worry, most of us take it as a compliment
The starter board and a starter kit (breadboard, assorted components and jumper wires) will cost you less that £50 IIRC. The software that you download to program the boards has loads of clear, simple but useful examples and there's a very friendly forum for help.
Plus it's all open source, including the hardware!
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roboman
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Posted: Aug-04-2010 at 02:29 |
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I don't see why not. I have yet to use then for any kinky toys. Lights, heaters, industrial vibrators and lots of things with motors. Just machine shop and production line / robotic stuff. I can't say all are opto-isolated, but I don't recall seeing any that weren't. |
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thetowel
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Posted: Aug-03-2010 at 09:51 |
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I was never going to use it as a driver, did that once with a small PIC, and the draw made the chip smoke, turned it off, inductance spikes set fire to it :( But still, best way to get through £2.99. I'm using an Arduino Mega Board with a AT1280 microcontroller. That is connected into an Ethernet ENC27J60 chip. Together, they cost around £20. I have written a basic webserver code that sits on the the AT1280 chip, and when certain information comes it, it activates or deactivates certain pins and returns input information. I have just finished writing a little .NET control program for it, and it works really nicely. Once the protection systems are on, then I will start using it for all kinds of fun. |
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Ashleigh
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Posted: Aug-03-2010 at 00:46 |
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Go with SSRs, I got curious and read up...seems power draw on the load side is fine...and relays make it simple - you don't need to drive a vibrator, but you can certainly use the relay to turn the vibrator on and off (have the relay sit between the vibe's power and the vibe itself. Leave the power on, and then close the relay to turn the vibe on.
Can you post the boards & chips you're using? How do you get from ethernet to turning things on an off?
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thetowel
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Posted: Aug-02-2010 at 19:08 |
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I have now worked on it a little more so that the inputs are protected by TVS diodes, so that they won't damage the chip, but most of the time, it will be passive circuit completion between the 5v rail and the input, and that works fine.
It definitely doesn't have the power to run any form of vibrator, as each output is only 5v, and I dont want to test the maximum load that can be drawn for fear of damaging the chip. I have wired all the outputs up through darlington pairs so that they can drive relays. Some of them shall be connected to a remote controlled plugs (to safely power 240v supplys, such as electromagnets). @designed I know, how sexy are we :D
I've never heard of those before, but as far as I can see, they are just a set of opto-isolators powered by MOSFETS. I was thinking of using just opto's before, but I was worried about the power draw if I as using motors, and didn't want to run the risk of damaging them and needing to replace them. Ooh, hang on, reading on on your later posts, they are starting to look appealing. Not sure whether to stick with mechanical relays, or go with the SSR's. I'll have to look at pricing. |
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Ashleigh
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Posted: Aug-02-2010 at 06:57 |
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I never knew solid state relays were opto-isolated...interesting in that they will thus draw power of their own (they aren't just a switch) but yet mean you can use them anywhere. That makes it a bit easier. Would one work if you put it in line with a e-stim box (between the box and the toy/plug/dildo)? As a way to randomize when you got shocked for example. I cannot see why not :) Edited by Ashleigh - Aug-02-2010 at 06:58 |
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Posted: Jul-30-2010 at 02:27 |
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That's the nice thing about the solid state ones. since you brought up digikey, they have over 4000 of them. In the 12 volt 20-40ma control range they have around 40, and will go up to 1000 volts ac with lots of amps. The solid state ones have no contact points to fry, they have an led on the control side and then some sort of photo resistor / transistor on the other side. I've been running the solid state relays off printer ports or other computer ports for a lot of years to control all kinds of ac motors and machinery. Now that controller boards are so cheep and easy to use, we mostly use the hardened sealed versions of basicly the same thing talked about above to control the relays. Well not just relays, stepper / servo controllers and any number of sensors. All that stuff is designed to make using industrial controllers easer and cheaper, so it mostly tends to hook up well to pc's or controller cards.
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Ashleigh
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Posted: Jul-29-2010 at 05:00 |
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I've not looked at digikey yet, but last I checked, any 12VDC relays that ran at low amperages - reed relay amperages - or even ones that ran at lower voltages and mild amerage draws, couldn't handle very much power across the relay contacts....but like I said, I've not checked digikey...
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Posted: Jul-28-2010 at 16:24 |
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You can get solid state relays that can turn on at low voltage and very low amps, while the other side is high voltage ac. You need to take a bit of care on the solid state relay you pick if the items you are going to control are dc, there are some that only shut down when the ac crosses the 0 voltage point in it's cycle. I kind of like the solid state ones, other then putting a dc item on one made for ac, I've never had one fry a point and get stuck on, they burn out and go off when they die. Also if the relay board gets shaken they don't care.
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Posted: Jul-28-2010 at 16:19 |
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Nerd speak........
Love this stuff I am still tempted to word on some timer locks for myself... |
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Ashleigh
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Posted: Jul-28-2010 at 15:55 |
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Well, wait - what voltage is the output, and what current is the output? I imagine it's something like 12VDC at a low amperage...what do you suggest to do with that output, drive a relay with high amperage contacts?
I've often considered doing something like this, but never was able to find something to output a high enough voltage.
If this can drive a relay...it can control electro magnets....it can turn estim stuff on and off...(could it actually act as an estim voltage output itself?) turn vibrators on and off...anything requiring power, this could somehow be used with. Edited by Ashleigh - Jul-28-2010 at 15:57 |
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thetowel
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Posted: Jul-28-2010 at 10:16 |
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i suppose thats a good question. When finished, it can be hooked upto a number of devices, such as vibrators, electro magnetic locks, other implements, and a computer can actively control what happens, when to do what, what to do if a certain event happens. Hell, it could even be used one day as a form of remote controlled bondage :D
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Posted: Jul-27-2010 at 21:25 |
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Looks sooo cool.....but what does it do?
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Posted: Jul-27-2010 at 19:44 |
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for as long as I care to remember, I have always fascinated by the idea of combining my kinky fun (self-bondage, and play with the missus) with computer controlled fun. It did start off as self-bondage, but has evolved into a teaching tool, and in some cases, group play with that as the master.
first time, I used a CD tray to control a key drop, then that moved into using lego mindstorms controlling a few elements. Next one from that was using the microphone and headphone jacks with a DAC and ADC for some digital interfaces, which was absolutely crap. over the last few years or so, I have been using a velleman USB device (K8055) with a few modified home wares, such as remote controlled plugs to control larger "appliances". but now, I have almost finished work on a new project that i'd though i'd share with you all. I have been chatting with some other like minded engineers on fetlife, and have got a lot of information on this. It is very similar to the USB device, except it works over an Ethernet connection, and ramps up from 5 inputs to 8 outputs to 16 of both. It uses an Arduino board with an ethernet shield, and so far, the length of development has had most of the time spent on waiting for delivery. It is still at breadboard level, but soon will be rack mounted, and connectible to all kinds of fun implements. It turns on and off some LEDs and senses button push's. Here's a few pictures:
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