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    Posted: Sep-25-2007 at 19:34
I was directed here after a mispost in the general forum. 

So, today happens to be my birthday, and joining here was a little present to myself :)  And now I am in search of a bondage dare for my birthday, hopefully involving socks and/or wool scarves.

 
Thanx!  I'll let you know the results!
 
Equipment at hand:
Several pairs of thick socks
10 scarves
a few coils of rope
2 padlocks
a few short links of chain
packing/strapping tape
 
Digcam at hand if anyone is interested.
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Hello everyone so i was looking for some ideas and possible a dare to do when i have the time.

Bondage equipment
2pairs of locking handcuffs
1pair police issue double locking handcuffs
2 chains (I believe about 10foot ea)
Key locks about five to six of them possible more(I will make sure i have the keys to them)
2-3 Combinations locks
Alot of rope different lengths and sizes
Duct tape
Belts that can be tied and ones you wear around your waist

Others:
Close pins and clamps
Collar
Candles

miscellaneous
I have Digicam and webcam if anyone interested in pictures or watching and helping.


Thats about all i can think of for now i will update it when i find more of my toys or if i missed anything.


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  Quote latexemma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-21-2007 at 01:57
Hi guys and gals,
 
I'm planning a SB sessions for tomorow (saturday) night. If anyone has a dare for me it would be appreciated!
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  Quote latexemma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-20-2007 at 02:50
Phoenix920, this is what I want you to do:
 
You will need the following things for this dare:
wrist cuffs, colar, duct tape, plastic wrap, ball gag, vibrating butt plug
 
You will also need to set up an ice-timed key release.
 
This dare will be done in two rooms:
Room1: will be were you are initially tied up, this is the room you'll be waiting in until you retrieve the doorkey.
Room2: This is the room were you will be searching for the keys to you handcuffs.
 
Strip naked.
 
Insert your vibrating butt plug (don't turn it on). Now make yourself some plastic wrap panties. They will also help to keep the plug in place.
 
Now use the plastic wrap to wrap yourself up completely: arms, legs (including feet) and torso. Your legs should stay separated, so that you are able to walk normally. Reinforce the plastic around your feet with some duct tape.
 
Wrap your head, but be sure not to cover your nose and mouth. Insert your ball gag. Check (and double check) that you will be able to breath normally.
Put on the collar.
 
Take the keys to your handcuffs and place them in room2.
 
Go back to room 1, lock the door.
Now it is time to set up the key release. Take the key from the door of room1 and put it in the key release. Hang it in room1 in a place you can't reach.
 
Now, take a few pieces of duct tape to blindfold yourself,
 
Turn on butt plug (highest setting)
 
Now cuff your arms behind your back
If it is possible, you should attach the cuffs to the collar in some way (piece of chain perhaps)
 
Now all you have to do is wait until the key release drops the key; unlock the door, go to the next room; find the keys to your cuff and unlock yourself.
 
Have fun! Be safe! And don't forget to write a full report!
 


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If its not to much of a problem. could i have a dare.


Time:  12 hours max.
 
Items:
ankle and wrist cuffs,
leather collar.
Several rolls of duck tape
Several rolls of plastic wrap
ball gag
vibrating butt plug
Butt plug
nipple clamps
several ties
3 vibrators
anal beads
about 30 feet of rope
several cock rings of a few sizes
 
I would do any kind of dare except:
pain / piss and shit stuff
If you care to talk about ties or just roleplay. the AIM i use is Phoenixlight920.   Its Mistress Dea's Smitten Kitten!!!
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  Quote That one guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-18-2007 at 19:23
Wow - now that's an elaborate dare. Big%20smile
I'll try it either tonight or tomorrow night...
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For "That One Guy"

Set up your time-release so that you have to make your way around the bed to get to it once it releases.

Put on the ankle cuffs and wrist cuffs. Tie a rope around your legs at the knees, above and below, and then cinch them in between. Tie another rope in a loop big enough that you can just get both arms through up to the elbows. Tie that rope to your knee-ropes. I'd advise against making it a slip knot, so it doesn't cut circulation.

Put tape over your eyes for a blindfold. Put on the posture collar and harness gag. Get on your knees, and take out your handcuffs. put one cuff around your cock, behind the balls, like a cock ring, and the other end through your thighs, and cuff your feet together with it. Then bend over, thread your arms through the loop at your knees (they should be resting against your elbows) and then reach up and lock your hands to your collar. If done right, you shouldn't be able to lower your hands or raise them away from your knees.

The timer should be set to about 2 hours. Once it goes off, make your way around the bed to it. If you can find a way to make it so you can't start going until it goes off, that would be better.

When you make it around the bed, you should hear the phone alarm continue to beep every so often, as most of them do when you miss a call or alarm. If it doesn't, though, you'll just have to search blindly for it.

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Originally posted by subscape

i am thinking about tying myself up in my back yard naked and spread eagled on the grass. I figure that i wont have many more chances before the weather changes.
I plan to use padlocks securing my wrists with the key frozen in a 32 oz cup so it would take some time to thaw out the release the key.
I'm just wondering if there are any others that may think of this as a good dare.


Good luck, but I would advise against being tied naked.  Be sure to remain clothed in long pants and long sleeves with mosquito repellant on all exposed skin.

Just today in the newspaper was news of a death from West Nile virus.
also a friend of mine has it.
This news hit close to home as you can see.

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  Quote latexemma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-17-2007 at 18:36

I completed GaggedUtiopia's dare this afternoon. Here's the report.

 

The first task was hanging my ice timer at shoulder height. I looked around for some time and did not find an obvious place to attach it. I finally decided to hang it up in the broom closet. I figured that the room was big enough for this dare and it had the advantage that I could drill a few holes that would not raise suspicion later. After drilling the holes, I screwed the ice timer to the wall. I tested it, it seemed strong enough.

I then placed an electrical heater in the room, put the thermostat on 30 celcius (about 85 F), closed the door and went on with my preparations.

I put on the stockings and body, then I gagged myself with the ringgag (and yes it was tight), then put on my hood, closed the zip and added the collar. Then I put on the gloves and added the cuffs.

 

Now it was time for the butt plug. To be honest, inserting a butt plug both scares and arouses me. I have not trained with the thing a lot, it hurts a bit to insert it, and two times before it hurted like hell when I removed it (that's why it also scares me).

I used plenty of lube (Aqua glide anal gel) and let it slide up my ass. It did not go in all the way the first time, so I lubed it again and tried again. This time with success. It hurt a bit and felt really uncomfortable the first few minutes.

I then started to get used to the feeling and finished my dress-up with the Latex panties.

By this time, I was horny as hell, sweating and drooling.

I took two ice cubes out of my new freezer and then I went back to the broom closet.

I noticed how warm it was already and decided to lower the termostate by 5° celcius (25° is still pretty warm; especially when dressed in latex). I put the ice in the timer and put the bar and ring in place.

I then closed the door behind me. I pumped up the plug and turned it on low vibrations.

I locked the cuffs together with a piece of chain (about 10 inch).

I now took a third padlock, pushed the light switch (so I was now in the dark) and tried to attach the lock to the ring on the timer. After three attempt, I succeeded.

 

I was now only one 'click' away from captivity. In my mind I ran over all steps again. I couldn't think of anything that I had forgotten. 'Click'

 

There I was, locked inside the broom closet, dressed up in latex, with my hands chained behind my back held at about shoulders height, with an inflated butt plug buzzing in my ass.

 

I was sweating and drooling like hell. It was really hot in there and I was glad that I had lowered the termostat by 5°. I could feel that there was a lot of sweat already in the feet of my latex stockings.

 

All the while, the butt plug kept me aroused, but I was unable to orgasm.

 

After some time, I started to feel some discomfort in my shoulders. I didn't know how long I was in there, and how long I would have to stay. I started to move as much as possible, trying to find a better position to stand, but without much success. In the mean time, the sweating and drooling and buzzing continued. It really was a wonderful time.

 

Then suddenly the ice timer released me. It was over. I could lower my arms again, they hurt a bit from being in that position.

 

In the dark, I searched for the doorknob and left the broom closet. I went straight to my bedroom and started playing with myself. After the long awaited orgasm I rested for a few minutes, and then started to clean up.

 

There was a lot of sweat on the floor in the closet. When I took of my latex stockings, I had almost half a pint of sweat in each stocking!

 

It was a great dare to do; one to repeat some time.

 

Emma.

 
EDIT: It took just over 70 minutes for the ice timer to release me.


Edited by latexemma - Sep-20-2007 at 02:21
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  Quote That one guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-16-2007 at 22:40
Dare wanted. ;)

Moi: 21 years old, male, tall, skinny and fairly flexible.

Time: no minimum. Max ~12 hours.

Release: timed - I prefer to do it with pre-timed cellphones, but I'm open to suggestions.

Equipment:
leather wrist cuffs
leather ankle cuffs
handcuffs
plain dog collar with a single D-ring
4"-tall posture collar with lots of D-rings
plain ball-gag
ball-gag harness
a few short pieces of chain
padlocks (the usual type, but I can get the combination ones if needed)
quite a bit of rope, even though I'm terrible at knots... (still haven't figured out how to do a cinch knot...)
duct tape! :^D

I'm planning on doing it overnight in my room - it's kind of large, about 25'x30'. The only immobile objects in my room are my bed and the hanger rack in my closet (it's a built-in closet, about 6' high, 5'long).

Limits: I'm not a big fan of cbt.

Let's hear it. :D


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Hi Tell me what you think I should do???

Here's my equipment

Hiatts 2010 Handcuffs
Taiwan Leg Irons
4 Cock Rings
Nipple Clamps (Pegs)
Lingerie
2 Rabbit Vibes
Leather Wrist Cuffs
Leather Ankle Cuffs

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Hi all,
 
Today I had some free time and you all know that free time means self bondage.
 
During the week I was already planning my little self bondage session and also communicated with latexexmma for some ideas.
 
Today when my girlfriend left I got my bag-of-tricks and got the right toys out of the bag and cleaned them one more time. The following items had been laid out ready for use:
Leather ankle and wrist cuffs,
Two small padlocks,
Two pair thumb cuffs,
Leather hood,
Leather posture collar,
Two spreader bars,
4 karabine hooks,
Vibrating pump-up butt- plug,
Vibrating cock-ring,
Tens unit and electro ball parachute,
Bottle of lube,
Duct tape,
Dry rice.
 
I started by placing the laptop and started the cd-rom drive timer program, tested it and then locked a string between the cd-rom drive. The string ran through a ring at the ceiling and held the keys out of reach. The timer was set at 4200 second. latexemma thought that one hour was a nice time for my session. So 4200 seconds meant that I had 10 minutes for putting myself into bondage.
 
The first bondage item was my leather hood which I laced very tight around my head. This hood always gives me a very strong submissive feeling. Next came the butt-plug which I lubed and push in my rear entrance. After the plug a put one ring of the vibrating cock-ring around my ball sack and the other ring around the shaft.
Next I put some lube on my balls and smeared it all over my ball sack and put the electro parachute around it. The water based lube works as an conductor for the little electro shocks.
 
I put on my leather ankle cuffs and connected them to the small spreader bar with carabine hooks. When my hand would be locked behind my back couldn’t reach them so locks weren’t necessary. Then I already connected one end of the long spreader bar to the middle hook of the small spreader bar with another carabine kook. Placed my leather wrist cuffs around my wrists and locked them with the two small padlocks so they couldn’t be removed without the keys hanging on the string from the ceiling. Put on the posture collar upside down and the back of the collar at front. This way the D-ring would be at the back off my neck. Placed the ball gag in my mouth and locked the strap firmly at the back of my neck.
Now I squeezed the pump-up ball of the butt-plug 8 times and turned on the vibration. I also turned on the vibration of the cock-ring and turned on the tens unit at a really annoying setting.  
Next I placed duct tape at the bottom of my knees with dry rice on it so my knees were resting on the dry rice (an idea of latexemma to add some extra torture). Snapped the snap-on blindfold to the hood and connected the other end of the long spreader bar to the D-ring of the posture collar with a carabine hook. Now I wasn’t able to sit completely down on my knees and was unable to get on my feet. I had to sit on my knees with my back straight up.
 
I thought my bondage was complete so I connected a thumb cuff to the D-ring of my left wrist cuff and also a thumb cuff to the right one. The other ends of the thumb cuff I connected behind my back to the ring at the middle of the long spreader bar. Now there was no way I could get free until the string would come free from the cd-rom drive and would fall down.
 
Checking my bondage by struggling I was convinced that there was no way back anymore. I was aroused, had a real submissive feeling and started to drift away in my fantasies. After some time the pleasure started to become torture. The dry rice was torturing my knees, the little electro shocks became more and more intense because I was sweating more and more. The salt sweat worked even better as a conductor than the lube did.
During the session I already placed myself under the string with the keys and waited until they would fall down. It seemed to last forever but when the cd-rom drive clicked open and I could catch the keys I was horny as hell and released myself from my bondage and also released myself the other way by jerking myself to a great orgasm.
 
Now it’s time to clean up the toys and put them back in the bag-of-ticks and the planning of a new adventure can begin. Thank you all for reading. If you have any ideas for a new session feel free to contact me. Ow and yes if forget to put on some nipple clamps and didn’t use a crotch rope as I had planned.
 
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So I finally got around to doing the standing spread eagle scenario I described on the first page. It was a long session, nearly 24 hours later I’m still worn out, and it was even a lazy day at work today. The session lasted somewhere between 2 ½ - 3 hours. During this time I had a medium vibrating butt plug inserted, 3 full 600 ml pop bottles hanging from my ball parachute, Japanese clover clamps which had a elastic running to a pulley on the ceiling, then running back to the attachment point on my harness gag and finally hooded and blinded.

The way the whole nipple clamp set up worked was it forced me to keep my head bowed down to avoid pulling on my nipples. Of course over the time of this session I had to move my neck around a bit as it would get stiff and sore. I never had that much weight hanging from my balls for that long before, but I find that it’s not the weight that hurts; it’s when the weights swing around that hurts. If I had a Mistress whipping me I wouldn’t have made it a half hour I’m sure.

In all, it was a very pain/torment good session that just went too long for my liking; I’m just too worn out to do this on a work day again. I’m still getting used to the times that my new device takes to release me, this one was with two larger ice cubes, and it took over 3 hours to melt enough to release.
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So here’s what I’m planning to do on Sunday any other ideas / suggestions greatly appreciated.

Equipment:
Posture Collar
Ball Gag
Blindfold

Hold-up
Panties
Tights
Bra
Cock Ring
Butt plug (small medium or large undecided as of yet)
Bullet Vibe (condomed to cock)
Chain crotch rope thing to hold in butt plug
Various Padlocks
Leather hand cuffs (lockable)
Velcro leg cuffs
Spreader bar

Relise Method:
Ice in stocking (providing nearly 2 hours before relise)

The Plan

1. Insert butt plug and put cockring on.
2. Put on condom wit vibe on head of cock
3. Put on hold-up, panties and stockings.
4. Lock on chain crotch rope thingy
5. Put Velcro cuffs on ankles.
6. Put on bra (fake boobs or not???)
7. Put on posture collar.
8. Lock on ball gag.
9. Attach ankles to spreader bar.
10. Turn on vibe.
11. Put on blindfold
12. Lock cuffs to spreader bar and enjoy until time's up.

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Hi all,
I’m planning a new selfbondage adventure/dare. If everything goes well I have the house for myself for Saturday afternoon/evening and also Sunday afternoon/evening.


I’m still planning/thinking about the position, but it will be something like this:
My ankles will be cuffed with leather cuffs to a spreader bar. Sitting on my knees I will connect one side of another spreader bar to the middle of the spreader bar between my ankles. The other end of that spreader bar will be connected to my posture collar. This way I cannot stand up anymore. I also cannot sit completely down on my knees. My hands will be cuffed behind my back and connected to the middle of the vertical spreader bar.

The result will be something like the drawing:

 

I’m planning to use the following pleasure/torture items:
The vibrating pump-up butt-plug of my electro butt-plug. The butt-plug will be held in place by a crotch rope which will also be connected to the middle of the vertical spreader bar. This way every wiggling can be felt from behind.
My balls will be surrounded by the electro parachute. I really hate that thing because it’s a real painfull or annoying (depend on the settings) torture device for me.
A cockring will be placed around the shaft of my penis. I’m still not sure what cock ring I’m going to use. It will be the vibrating one or the electro cockring.
It depends on the time of the bondage session if I will use clover clamps or my simple standard nipple clamps.

I think I will wear my leather hood, not sure I will use a gag.

As release method I probable will use the cd-rom drive holding a string with the keys.


My questions:
Which butt-plug would you advice?
Which cock ring would you advice?
What will be a suitable time before the keys will be released?
Should I use an gag (which one) and/of blindfold?
Do you have any extra suggestions/ideas?


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Originally posted by GaggedUtopia

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It sounds like you already have a good idea on what you would like to do.  Here is what I think you should add to spice it up a bit. 

Get a cinder block or something heavy like that.  Make a crotch rope, making sure the rope pressed on the plug.  Use tape if need to make sure the rope stays on target.  Put yourself in a hogtie, assuming you can't get the plug out that way. 

As you creep across the floor, the rope will push the plug deeper.  It will also make it harder for you to move and reach the keys.  Add the posture collar and ring gag for good measure.

Good Luck!
 
Just did this one this weekend! This is my second real dare completed (first was to wear a collar on a long drive to work early in the morning).
 
There were a few changes that I had to make though.... I did not have a cinderblock, so I used a metal toolbox I have. It wasn't quite heavy enough and slid on the floor pretty easily. Next time I'll add some of my dumbbell weights inside it, and lock it shut.
 
Also, I started out by locking myself to the box, and I forgot my stuff for the frogtie way out of reach. Not wanting to carry it with me, I changed the feet bindings. The cuffs on my ankles I connected with a pair of handcuffs, and the other end of the cuffs when to the tip of the cock cage, so ever step I took pulled my cock back. This was made more interesting because I did use a chain locked around my balls, back through a belt, to the chain on the toolbox, so in addition to pushing the butt  plug in, it pulled my balls back.
 
Alas, I was not able to get the large butt-plug in. I think I just need to practice more with something intermediate before moving up to that one. It is about an inch and a half across I think, maybe 2 inches. I had the small one handy just in case, but unfortunately it doesn't stay in very well. I had to push it in a few times, and keep tension on the ball-weight chain to keep it inside me.
 
Another problem I found.... if you're doing a scene with a butt plug and nipple clamps, put the clamps on first. If you get any lube on them, they slide off very easily, and without much pain. The five pound weight I had dragging from them pulled them off after a few steps.
 
The biggest thing I would change, though, would be adding an ice-release to the beginning. Like, ice holding a chain in place against the wall, so I have to wait some time before starting across. I started immediately, and even in my bound state, with little steps, I was across the room in about five minutes. Not nearly enough fun.
 
Was extremely arousing though. Thank you to GaggedUtopia for the dare!
 
 
 
Now, anyone want to dare me to something else? My full list of toys and all that is on the first page!
 
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  Quote gaggedutopia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-09-2007 at 21:48
I was just preparing to do the dare GaggedUtopia gave me. I was about to take the ice from the freezer when I noticed that instead of ice, I only had water.

Well that will make for a very short adventure!  Hope you get it fixed soon.
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  Quote latexemma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-09-2007 at 08:35
I was just preparing to do the dare GaggedUtopia gave me. I was about to take the ice from the freezer when I noticed that instead of ice, I only had water.
My freezer broke down, so the dare will have to wait for a few more days until I get it fixed again.
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well im planning to chain my laegs over my head behind me to the headboard my hands cuffed behind me and my key frozen in ice above my cuffed hands. i will also be wear stockings and bra and panties and i wil tape a vibrator to my cock . bearing in mind my cock will be pointing towards my face. might even spank myself first
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Originally posted by subscape

i am thinking about tying myself up in my back yard naked and spread eagled on the grass. I figure that i wont have many more chances before the weather changes.
I plan to use padlocks securing my wrists with the key frozen in a 32 oz cup so it would take some time to thaw out the release the key.
I'm just wondering if there are any others that may think of this as a good dare.
 
It sounds like a good dare, assuming....
 
...that you're not going to be found and arrested for indecent exposure, or possibly something worse!
 
...that you take into account the weather and surroundings. Will you need sunblock? Bug repellant? Both?
 
...hopefully you don't live in an area where there are coyotes/bears/wolves/wild boars/bobcats/escaped psychotic killers?
 
More details can't hurt. Smile
 
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Hands to collar and frogtied legs sounds like a good position and one that you won't have much leverage with.  You should be nice and sweaty at the end.  At least the basement floor will keep you cool Tongue.


Glad you approve. I just hope i have enough leverage to make it across in time. I'll do it either saturday or wednesday night I think.

I'm thinking I might add a separate weight to my nipple clamps, and perhaps instead of using just a crotch-rope to the block, I'll tie a rope around my ball,, then back up through the waist rope, and to the block, so it will both pull on my balls and push the plug in. The hard part will then be not cumming before I get totally bound. Maybe the cock-cage will help with that. maybe not.

Hopefully my report will impress people enough to post more dares for me.

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i am thinking about tying myself up in my back yard naked and spread eagled on the grass. I figure that i wont have many more chances before the weather changes.
I plan to use padlocks securing my wrists with the key frozen in a 32 oz cup so it would take some time to thaw out the release the key.
I'm just wondering if there are any others that may think of this as a good dare.
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  Quote selfboundwebcam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-06-2007 at 07:11
oh yeah, forgot to include clover-clamps on my list.
 
they have 18 inch chain between them, which is actually really longg, but it's a very weak chain. it's one of those librarians wear on eyeglasses. The chain would probably break before the clamps ever came off
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  Quote submissive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep-06-2007 at 01:51
Probably i will have saturday time for some selfbondage fun... anyone for a nice dare... My toys can be found a few posts ago. When the darer wants i can take some pictures, will write a report if the darer wishes...




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Obviously, if you can think of any improvements that would make the clamps less likely to come off, I'd be happy to hear them.


I know that you can pass a luggage lock throught the works of a clover clamp that makes it impossible to open them without removing the locks, but I don't think this will stop one from pulling them off. I agree with you that this is the safety for this scenerio, If for some reasom the ice stocking release failed, I would have to pull the clamps off to get free.

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