Writing a random scenario app - input welcome

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Topic: Writing a random scenario app - input welcome
Posted: Aug-16-2009 at 15:23

Awesome! DL-ing and testing it as we speak :)

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Posted: Aug-16-2009 at 08:47

I don't mean to make an additional workload or anything like that...

It was just something i saw floating around on here ages ago, and thought it might have been something that tweaked your interest. i think it was called timelock.

Oh, no. It's another category!

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Posted: Aug-15-2009 at 16:19

A quick and nasty random countdown timer, let me know if anyone would like it developed with additional features

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Edited by Crowley - Oct-12-2009 at 15:19

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Posted: Aug-15-2009 at 14:28

Originally posted by _MiG_

The one with the sample pics wants a password, the other one doesn't.

one idea, and i don't know how much coding this would involve, but what about a timer?

It'd be good for the self bondage peoples around here, and, if you're up for idea stealing, there was a program a while back that had a nifty way of doing stuff.

You'd use a combination lock to lock stuff onto you. But, you've randomised the combo lock's combination, and taken a photo of it. You copy that photo to your pc, and the program encrypts it, so you can't see the combination til the timer's up. I dunno what that'd be like to do, but it would be cool.

The timer function is fairly simple. Not sure where exactly to fit it into the dresser program but I'll run up a standalone app tonight.

Still working away on the updated version of the dresser app. The exclusion algorithims are making my head hurt

Edited by Crowley - Jan-28-2010 at 05:15

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Posted: Aug-15-2009 at 12:02

The one with the sample pics wants a password, the other one doesn't.

one idea, and i don't know how much coding this would involve, but what about a timer?

It'd be good for the self bondage peoples around here, and, if you're up for idea stealing, there was a program a while back that had a nifty way of doing stuff.

You'd use a combination lock to lock stuff onto you. But, you've randomised the combo lock's combination, and taken a photo of it. You copy that photo to your pc, and the program encrypts it, so you can't see the combination til the timer's up. I dunno what that'd be like to do, but it would be cool.

Oh, no. It's another category!

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Posted: Aug-15-2009 at 11:09

It says it wants a password?

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Posted: Aug-14-2009 at 16:11

I've been working on a program somewhat like this but ALOT more simple. It was just a random image generator of a position. You type in a number, it shows you a picture from a selection of over 500+ images, and you'd have to do that scenario.

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Posted: Aug-05-2009 at 09:19

Originally posted by mummysboy

Also, would the new internal data structure support dealing with clothing and objects for two people (or more knowing this list Tongue

). We have several items which can be used by either of us - but not both at the same time!

It would also be good if scenarios could be incorporated - such as 'in the kitchen', spreadeagle on bed or whatever - we often do 'mummified in particular positions' and I cannot see how to do this at the moment.

Of course, like all developers, you are now suffering from the 'user group keeps coming up with changes' scenarion!

Thanks for all the work - its a really good thing!

M

Thanks for the feedback on the exception error. I'm not totally surprised as the settings / item editing section was thrown together fairly quickly. It's been completely re-written which should take care of that bug and I'll take more time to test before releasing it this time.

With regard to the multiple items / multiple people, I'll stick the thinking cap on. My first thoughts are it would probably be an extension of the routines to make sure mutually exclusive items aren't suggested or the same item isn't suggested for multiple categories.

That said, this particular code is proving more difficult than I thought it would. It's easy to detect when a clash occurs, how to resolve it is the trick. Do you drop one of the conflicting items, pick another item from the same category, etc. The later would work best if there are lots of items in each category but I need to work through the possible permutations (which is fun with a program fundamentally designed to be random).

I'd probably have to limit it to two players, my head starts to hurt thinking of permutations after that. Anyway those troilists are just perverts, not like us good upstanding bondage, latex, chastity and packaging fetishists

With regard to the scenarios. I envisaged the 'Random Task' category as doing this (you can add and rename categories easily in the new version. You could add your scenarios in there and set the probability to high to ensure it's selected. Would that work?

Alternatively I can easily add a "Random+" button to the next version i.e. you tick the boxes you definately want and the others are picked randomly.

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Edited by Crowley - Aug-05-2009 at 09:21

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Posted: Aug-05-2009 at 07:41

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The only problem i have run into is i cannot figure out how if one item is selected such as "spreader bar" that it does reselect it somewhere else. Example i have one spreader bar, but have entered it into the area for ankle restraints and wrist restraints. It popped on both.

I have to confess I never considered this scenario but certainly needs to be taken into account.

Also, would the new internal data structure support dealing with clothing and objects for two people (or more knowing this list Tongue

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Posted: Aug-05-2009 at 07:37

More feedback on the exception - it seems to happen after any change is made in the settings page. Exiting and reloading clears the problem.

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Posted: Aug-05-2009 at 07:29

Just to report an unhandled exception problem.

Circumstances:

Change picture to male, pick 'light session' (although this is arbitrary I think)
Assuming it generates something which is a link to a picture - click on the link - the exception happens. Switching back to female does not clear it - although switching back, exiting and reloading - does.

Hope this helps.

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Its a wrap, OK

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Posted: Aug-05-2009 at 07:04

I have to confess I never considered this scenario but certainly needs to be taken into account.

I've had to completely change the way the program stores data internally to address this (not just to address this, the change gives me more flexibility to implement other things like the 'don't use item x if item y has already been selected' scenario).

I've also completely overhauled the item editor interface, this will hopefully make it much easier to add and change items. I think the new interface is much simpler to use, hopefully others will agree.

I'm not going to do another mid-point beta as I've discovered the difficulty of changing the way data is stored and maintaining backwards compatibility. The new program will automatically update any existing data files to the new format so you shouldn't lose any existing work but it gets much more complicated if I have to try to maintain compatibility with multiple versions of the data structure. I’ll hopefully have something in a week or so.

I've setup a g-mail address for the project. If you've any suggestions or would like to be notified when an update is available drop me a mail to randomdresser (at) googlemail (dot)com. I’ll be updating this thread as well obviously.

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Posted: Jul-30-2009 at 03:42

I like the idea. But, alas, i haven't really got that much in the way of options for stuff to attach to me, so the random factor of it isn't really gonna work terribly well :lol:

I'll download it, and give it a bash, see if anything jumps out at me as being completely oddball, or that looks like it could be bettered.

Oh, no. It's another category!

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 18:35

OK i have downloaded and installed it. I love it. I am not a programmer so i cannot help you with program, but i have not run into any errors, once i figured out what i was doing. I used the additional areas to add categories for whole outfits that were preselected, and for positions to tie up my darling sub. Also have been able to include various self bondage settings. The only problem i have run into is i cannot figure out how if one item is selected such as "spreader bar" that it does reselect it somewhere else. Example i have one spreader bar, but have entered it into the area for ankle restraints and wrist restraints. It popped on both. This is however no big problem. Again i love this program you did a great job Crowley.

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 17:31

Originally posted by mturn12

i never used rapidshare before anything i need to know, to i open all three or in just one and what order?

Pick your poison, you only need one. I'd recommend the first link, the one with graphics samples as this will give a better idea of how it works.

The help windows (in the settings section) gives a brief description of how to add your own images. I'll expand on it a lot more in the next release.

By the way, I haven't bothered with a installer i.e. single downloadable executable file that will install the app and create an icon for you, etc because I'm not fussed on them myself for small apps. However if people would like one, let me know and I'll look into it.

Edited by Crowley - Jul-29-2009 at 17:58

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 17:26

Responses to other comments...

@ Mummysboy. This is one half of the project. The other half is a service that would run on my partners PC to popup the random dresser at random times (that's getting fairly random

I envisaged something along the lines of a 5% chance of running the day after it last ran ramping up to a max 50% chance of running every day after 7 days since it last ran with all those figures being user customisable.

When triggered there would be further random calculations to decide if the task was just straight sex

, an entry from the 'RandomTask' field i.e. 'wear your nipple huggers until bedtime'

or else a full dress up / bondage session

I wouldn't imagine it would be hard at all to extend the same logic to provide a predictive report. In fact I think I'd have to do almost exactly that to test the logic. Let me know if you'd be interested.

@ EnigmaPOJ and mturn12 - Thanks for the feedback. If you've run the app then hopefully you can see that it's fairly easy to add your own categories such as chastity and self-bondage.

I'm not particularly into either (OK, I'll admit I would be interested in chastity but it's unlikely to happen

) so I'm not sure how this could be implemented better but I'm sure it could be improved. If you want to feed back any suggestions I'd be glad to try to add them in if possible.

I'm guessing at things like wear belt x for period y with y being random hours, days, weeks?

As a general aside, the same goes for the SM side of BDSM, it's not my thing so I haven't given it a lot of thought but if anyone wants to suggest how this could be implemented I'm willing to code it. Something like random(x) spanks with random(device)?

BTW, just re-read my last post and two things might need clarified.

1. I am looking at a fairly major re-write but it'll almost all be under the hood. The app should look and act the same other than any changes to that side of things suggested by people here.

I'd really like feedback on the look of the app. It's just not my thing, the basic default control colour scheme is boring to look at but any alternatives I tried look garish. It's grown on me but I've been looking at it for a looooong time (OK, a week, but it seems longer).

2. I mentioned the .NET framework being needed. For the techies out there it's written for version 2.0 so it should work on most PCs

Crowley.

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 17:25

i never used rapidshare before anything i need to know, to i open all three or in just one and what order?

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 16:54

OK folks *deep breath*, here you go.

The more time I spend on the program the more I find that could be changed. However work is about to take over my life again for a few days so I thought it would be better to get something release rather than chasing the dream of perfection.

The first thing that needs to be said is that I'm posting links to zip files that contain executable files. If someone I didn't really know sent me the same I'd be highly dubious to put it politely. I can't think of any way round this as I haven't the skills or time nor am I prepared to pay the money to get the app signed / certified / whatever. I can only say it's up to yourself to make sure you've whatever necessary protection in place before downloading it.

The app is fairly simple, just unzip to the directory of your choice and run dresser.exe. It's pretty much self contained, all the config files live in the same directory or a 'Graphics' subdirectory under it. It doesn't need to / shouldn't access anything else on your PC but, as I've said before, I'm not an expert at this. If it makes your scanner eat your cat... I'm sorry but caveat emptor.

It will need the Microsoft .NET Framework (2.0 or later) to be installed on your PC. This is available from WindowsUpdate but should already be on most PCs. I haven't done much testing on different platforms. The majority has been done on Windows 7 RC but I've given it a quick run on a fully patched Windows XP system and it seems fine.

The code as it stands is still fairly buggy but I've a major re-write in mind that will fundamentally change the way it works under the hood and hope to fix most of the bugs that way. The bugs are mostly in the editor interface i.e. if you add a category in the categories tab it doesn't appear in the toy editor tab until you save changes and that type of thing.

The drag and drop engine to allow the user to move the checkboxes on the main screen is fairly Heath Robinson when it comes to dragging checkboxes between the two different parts of the form and the documentation in the help screen is... sparse at the minute.

If you're willing, please report any and all bugs back to me here in this thread or a personal message, whichever suits. Any testing I've done has been mostly 'happy path' i.e. I've done what I expected people to do when I wrote the program. This rarely happens from what I've heard from developers I work with.

I'd love feedback from any developers who want to have a look at the code. Anything over and above "your code sucks donkeys" (Hmmm, just thought of a category I should have added) will be taken as constructive criticism.

Hope you like.

Crowley

Edited to include new download URL

Edited by Crowley - Jan-28-2010 at 05:13

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 12:39

I think this in a outstanding idea, and am greatly looking forward to seeing/using the beta. You are a genius, this could also be used for self bondage i believe which would help a great deal of others as well.

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 12:29

I think it's a great ideal. It could also be used by partners that are interested but need new ideals/scenarios. You could even introduce new items/inventory and a chastity belt option is a must :)

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 09:07

ITs a great idea - I have a program to do very similar things. It suggests clothing etc for either/both of us and which night to do it. It actually will print a list which can cover several months if wanted.

It was written to solve the same problem as yours, a partner who is willing to participate - but is not that interested herself. A lot of the pleasure of our scene is being surprised by what happens and this helps. My program suggests days as she does not use the computer much.

Of course its easy to peek if you want to know what is coming up - but that's up to you.

It very tailored to our scene and would not be that much use to others - though it is data driven and so flexible in the clothes/toys it can handle (no editor though so its Notepad or similar). Its written in Delphi (Visual Studio was not even out when I wrote it!).

I will certainly help test and play if you like.

Its a wrap, OK

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Posted: Jul-29-2009 at 04:59

Looks very good,impressed isnt the word! ill be waiting for this to try..

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